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this looks like alot of fun

Mighty impresive stuff so far Has a good, 'Soniccy' look to it.

looking good

wingedwolf wrote:

Wow, and I thought that the craze around my old Sonic-Example-Thingy is over completely!
This certanly looks much better than what most people have been doing with my old work - Keep it up!

Winged Wolf! Do you know how long I've been looking for you? You are hard to find. You are not on the yo yo forums anymore. Anyway the engine you created kicks ass. I have added things into it and I believe it is capable of much more. You should have never stopped working on this engine man! AND YES I GAVE YOU CREDIT and I will continue to do so. Anyway the engine is good. the problems you had with it I'm asuming were collision and speed issues. 3D mode in game maker uses direct draw. NOT open GL Not hardware accelerated, what this means is when you make your games you have to be clever with the codeing and reduce the amount of code being read in order to maintain stability. As for collisions well you just have to be clever about using masks and stuff. I have actually improved your engine in quite a few areas and am still tinkering with it. I promise I'm not just laying out a level using your work. You will see what I mean soon. Thank you for the engine by the way!

WingedWolf; wasn't this also part of Dobermanns engine, or a design of your own.  I know I'm digging stuff up from 2 year, or so ago.

Actually dobermann used to work with Game Maker and he indeed did make another Sonic Xtreme example. It was much better than mine though, hahaha.
I think this is the one he made: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZUDnAQzJmU .
Don't pay attention to what the poor kid is trying to tell us with "Lost Build 859!! ZOOOMG!!!", it's just a failed joke.
I think he made this one, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSBhPcdu … re=related
They ware much better than my example back then, because they worked a LOT faster and they ware no where near as glitchy as mine was.
And before you ask - no, I don't know where to get these, in fact, I sort of doubt they're still available in the first place.
His website seems to be down and I doubt he even visits this forum anymore.

wingedwolf wrote:

They ware much better than my example back then, because they worked a LOT faster and they ware no where near as glitchy as mine was.
And before you ask - no, I don't know where to get these, in fact, I sort of doubt they're still available in the first place.

Back then. Not now, I have fixed the speed and collision issues. Your engine is superior.

Yeah, I used to have the source to Dobermann's game engine.  It was actually really good, but it still lacked most of the features that made Sonic Xtreme, well..., Sonic Xtreme (fisheye, rotations etc.)

Yeah we are using Ultimate3D which gives access to vertex shaders using Assembler.  These are essentially the lowest level of programming.  It literally changes the way the graphic card renders rather then using a trick to appear curved.

I remember someone using 4 planes to make a block, then applying a math formula to skew the planes to make a pretty good fisheye effect in GM.  I can't remember where I saw this before.

Before I was using Ult3D, Now this was WAY back in 2006, I was using a technique for level rotations, but I can't remember what it was, and that source code is long lost, and so are all the videos of it.  I had them all stored on a server which expired and all the stuff got deleted off it.  I think it involved rotating all the planes, and using a simple trig math formula to make sure they all stay locked together as they should.

Though I must say, I love the Sonic ghosting effect when he is running full speed.

Last edited by Xeniczone (2010-08-28 02:03:23)

Wooh, You have some serious learning of 2D and 3D basics ahead of you, not to mention basic maths.
You could do a perfect loop by using Sin and Cos, obviously. Actually GM makes it a bit easier by giving you a "Lengthdir_x / Lengthdir_y" functions, and yes, you can use them in 3d - you can use pretty much anything from 2D  in 3D. Think 2D to 3D as just another axis added to it, and not a completely different kind of programming.

About the level rotations - learn how to use the heck out of "If" and "Else" - you'll need those.. FOREVA!!!
Basically you can make it so that when sonic hits a wall, pressing a specific key would activate another variable, which, would make you go into the "Level Rotation Mode" - When that happens, disable the controls for basic movement and other animations, and then you can start rotating the camera and the gravity direction ( Since Xtreme is block by block, making sonic fall to right or left should be easy enough. ).

Theres just so much to tell, and there are just so many ways to do it.
It's not like: " Go to this event, write this one line, and Violla! It's done! ", it's a lot more complicated than that, and you'll probably have to modify most of the sonic's code, too, because things like this have to be coded differently, if your base code is different.

There will be no more video previews from now on. If I keep showing you the progress you will feel as though you have already played the game when it's finished! So thus I bring you the final video preview via Youtube. I will still post screenshots but from here on no more videos! This final video shows you a near complete Jade Gully with flying added, early work on the Red Sands zone, wall bumpers, and sprite animations for the bosses (made by MugenHunter) Enjoy this video is pretty decent! Look for my beta demo coming soon to this thread!
FINAL YOUTUBE PREVIEW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mJsH5ooYt8







FINAL YOUTUBE PREVIEW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mJsH5ooYt8

Re-Volt wrote:

WOW I can't wait for the final!
I've been trying to do what you've done in GM8 for a while would you mind sending me one of the levels in .Game Maker File so I can see how you did it?

Re-Volt, I'm sorry but I do not feel comfortable releasing Sonic Xtreme GM8 in .gmk file of any kind at this time. (NOT EVEN ONE LEVEL) I would be happy to help you with what things I have done that you are curious about, but you should start by being more specific. What things have I done in my project that you are also trying to do?
Winged Wolf released this engine a long time ago and it is available for download but you have to ask him where to get it. His version has only basic elements however as I have made major additions to this thing as you can see from my videos above.
I will release my modified version of the engine for anybody to use, but that won't be exactly the same as my game and that won't happen until after I release the game.